Wings - freedom trade

[Abel (Wings)]

Wings trade : 
2017 1st round NFL pick 1.02
WR Josh Gordon 


Freedom  trade :
2017 1st round NFL pick 1.01
QB Derek Carr 

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I accept

[St. Louis Sting]

This seems a bit off to me. I'd like to hear reasoning from each owner on this before it is approved please

[Abel (Wings)]

Im willing to eat carrs contract. And freedom moves down 1 spot for the salary relief. He gaines around $20 in the deal.

[Jon (Huskies)]

Wow....

[Jimmy (Desperados)]

I'm not sure about the "eating Carrs contract". He is a top 5 QB and most of those are in the same salary range.

[Jon (Huskies)]

Completely agree, Carr is well worth his contract

[Abel (Wings)]

Then you guys should have traded for him. I was going to cut him tomorrow but maybe now ill keep him

[St. Louis Sting]

I have added a poll to the trade to allow owners a vote. Keep in mind, the only reasons to veto are suspected collusion (which is not an issue here in my mind) or a SEVERELY lopsided trade, as we should do our best to allow owners to run their own teams. We have done a great job of that here thus far, as I don't believe we have ever had any trades vetoed.

That being said, this trade does not make sense in my opinion. Yes, Carr is somewhat expensive, but top 10 QB's are expensive to acquire. I believe Carr's contract is fair for a player of his caliber, and I wouldn't call taking him on "eating" a bad contract by any stretch of the imagination.

Gordon is also making $15 and hasn't played in the NFL in nearly 3 years, with no assurance or indication that he will play any time soon. This is essentially paying $15 for an empty and unproductive roster spot.

If the Freedom were strapped for cap room (as I and Syracuse are), I could potentially see some reasoning to this trade though I still would not be a huge fan. But the Freedom have plenty of cap space going forward. The Wings get the two most valuable assets in the trade, and does not seem fair to me at all.

[Abel (Wings)]

Whats the ruling so we could get started ? Ill take the other bad contract instead freedom if that makes everyone happy. Then you could trade carr to huskies or dallas they seem to want him.

[Abel (Wings)]

This is a free league no need for all this . Freedom give me Bernard instead of carr so we can get draft started.

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Having a tough time keeping the charge on my phone this morning as soon as I can get it to charge more than 3% and die on me I will explain myself a bit better

[Pensacola Pelicans]

I'd like to hear the logic from Freedom. Why would you give up a top QB AND the #1 pick? Definitely looks pretty lopsided, but I don't like vetoing trades. Maybe Freedom has some reasoning we're not thinking about.

[Jeff (Haze)]

Moving up to the 1st pick for the 'penalty' of taking on Carr? If he didn't break his leg week 16, he would have finished top 5.

Buffalo says 'I was going to cut him tomorrow'. Anyone that owns Gordon should do the same. So this was basically swapping the 1st and 2nd pick for nothing?

There's no rule against terrible trades (like dumping Ovi for a song), but this makes no sense to me.

[Abel (Wings)]

Theres alittle more to it i think. Freedom in his opinion has a few contracts hes trying to clear. So penalty on $15 or penalty on $35 is what im thing his reasoning is plus its 1 draft spot lower. Maybe hes higher on a guy thats not projected to go #1 overall. I guess we will find out when he signs on.


Myself I have alot of cap space Bad contract dont bother me or $70 invested in qbs since i already have andrew luck. But i would have taken any contract he wanted to get rid of